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Old 04-09-2012, 02:02 AM   #11
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Gracie4,

there is so much that it would take pages to write it all down, I have made many notes and reminders for myself so that I can recall them in the future.

One thing that always sticks in my mind is Ray saying "Do it for the horse,not to him"

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Old 12-09-2013, 02:06 PM   #12
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Just a question about Buck riding the two rein in the video, since I am a bit confused, and assuming the bit is a spade.
I heard it say you never use two hands when riding a spade bit...
Why aren't you "allowed" to ride a spade bit with 2 hands.

In case he does not use a spade in the video would the rule still apply ?
Or are there execptions regarding specific situations (?) you are "allowed" to use 2 hands on a (spade) bit?

Yep, you guessed right, I am at the very beginning of the journey.

Thanks for responses!
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Old 12-10-2013, 06:13 PM   #13
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Just a question about Buck riding the two rein in the video, since I am a bit confused, and assuming the bit is a spade.
I heard it say you never use two hands when riding a spade bit...
Why aren't you "allowed" to ride a spade bit with 2 hands.

In case he does not use a spade in the video would the rule still apply ?
Or are there execptions regarding specific situations (?) you are "allowed" to use 2 hands on a (spade) bit?

Yep, you guessed right, I am at the very beginning of the journey.

Thanks for responses!
I guess it depends if your are using the bit as a signal bit or a leverage bit. Buck has his own way of doing things. So there aren't any rules, just what you know and understand. I am not going to take anything away from Buck. Buck rides well, but I have seen better.
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Old 12-12-2013, 10:29 AM   #14
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Jimmy, thanks for your response. So my understanding now is that Buck uses the bit in the Video NOT as a signal but as a leverage bit. Thanks again.
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Old 12-12-2013, 12:49 PM   #15
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Jimmy, thanks for your response. So my understanding now is that Buck uses the bit in the Video NOT as a signal but as a leverage bit. Thanks again.
That is the way I see it. It is not wrong. It is important though to be able to see what is going on, without judgement. He is keeping the horse shaped up, but I see him holding the horse there somewhat, being critical. Some may see collection, and there is a medium degree of collection. You can hear a voice in the video say something like perfect collection, but it is not that much. The horse does not appear all that light to me. If is unfortunate that to many this is remarkable riding and training, when what I see is a very standard basic form of a canter, a lead changes, and a stop exercise. It is good, but hardly remarkable. There are hundreds of riders that can produce the same movement and result as shown in the video. I wouldn't let the fact that it is Buck sway a discerning eye from what is very basic riding technique.
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:26 PM   #16
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Jimmy, I appreciate you explaning what you see. Thank you!
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